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		<title>Comment on Interview with Tercerunquinto (Part 1) by Marie Maxey, Prior Operations Manager of NLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Maxey, Prior Operations Manager of NLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents or maybe three…
 
To sell or not to sell Langton’s Archive? 

Is this a sacrificial act? Or are you just erasing our past to rewrite your own? 

Tercerunquinto selling our heart and soul, the sprit, the genie that fly’s out of the bottle when you rub it?

I know what’s in those undeserving plain-wrap boxes containing the archive. I personally participated in creating it. 

When I took over as Operations Manager in ’93, I had the decision to donate or to commit to continuing Langton’s Archive. I made the commitment and personally sans-payroll, indexed the archive, making it available to our exhibiting artist and extended community. 

Yes, late nights with no money in sight, committed volunteers and friends alike worked to document our history for our legacy.

I experienced phone calls from NLA’s past exhibiting artist’s and students who would request items from NLA’s Archive to further their careers and study. Who wouldn’t have wanted an illustrated program from our ‘Rat Fink’ show? Did you know you could have bought one for three bucks?

I challenge the Directors to create options and outline permissible conditions of the sale. I suggest finding an appropriate offer that keeps archival material accessible to artist of past exhibitions and to students and the art community at large. 

I challenge the Directors to publicly publish the Archives’ Index of materials. New Langtons’ Archive possibly contains Artist’s works that were donated to the institution and were not to be considered as apart of the Archive.

Tercerunquinto also made this assessment of Langton: ‘We saw that the “real” site of Langton is not it’s building but its archive. The building doesn’t matter here, the institution is represented in a different way, not by its building but by its history.’

I sat in the gallery for years, NLA enjoyed much return foot traffic due the length of our south of market location. 

This building is truly unique and built for art. Did you know there is a hidden hallway behind the theater where we hid things downstairs during events to keep things organized for the theater. New Langton Arts gallery and theater split-level space is uniquely and distinctly its’ own. 

I’d ask the Board to poll our past Performance Artists and have them speak to the intimate atmosphere of NLA’s theater and the magic it creates. Where else could you screen Andy Warhol’s ‘Empire’ for eleven hours?

I challenge Tercerunquintos’ entire assessment of New Langton Art’s. I see it as a shortsighted, skewed assessment, entangled in wholly opportunistic art making.

I propose that if NLA sells it’s Archive, please sell it’s name and location too.

Honestly, the Archive in all of it’s beautiful imperfectness is at least ours… even if for just a little while longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents or maybe three…</p>
<p>To sell or not to sell Langton’s Archive? </p>
<p>Is this a sacrificial act? Or are you just erasing our past to rewrite your own? </p>
<p>Tercerunquinto selling our heart and soul, the sprit, the genie that fly’s out of the bottle when you rub it?</p>
<p>I know what’s in those undeserving plain-wrap boxes containing the archive. I personally participated in creating it. </p>
<p>When I took over as Operations Manager in ’93, I had the decision to donate or to commit to continuing Langton’s Archive. I made the commitment and personally sans-payroll, indexed the archive, making it available to our exhibiting artist and extended community. </p>
<p>Yes, late nights with no money in sight, committed volunteers and friends alike worked to document our history for our legacy.</p>
<p>I experienced phone calls from NLA’s past exhibiting artist’s and students who would request items from NLA’s Archive to further their careers and study. Who wouldn’t have wanted an illustrated program from our ‘Rat Fink’ show? Did you know you could have bought one for three bucks?</p>
<p>I challenge the Directors to create options and outline permissible conditions of the sale. I suggest finding an appropriate offer that keeps archival material accessible to artist of past exhibitions and to students and the art community at large. </p>
<p>I challenge the Directors to publicly publish the Archives’ Index of materials. New Langtons’ Archive possibly contains Artist’s works that were donated to the institution and were not to be considered as apart of the Archive.</p>
<p>Tercerunquinto also made this assessment of Langton: ‘We saw that the “real” site of Langton is not it’s building but its archive. The building doesn’t matter here, the institution is represented in a different way, not by its building but by its history.’</p>
<p>I sat in the gallery for years, NLA enjoyed much return foot traffic due the length of our south of market location. </p>
<p>This building is truly unique and built for art. Did you know there is a hidden hallway behind the theater where we hid things downstairs during events to keep things organized for the theater. New Langton Arts gallery and theater split-level space is uniquely and distinctly its’ own. </p>
<p>I’d ask the Board to poll our past Performance Artists and have them speak to the intimate atmosphere of NLA’s theater and the magic it creates. Where else could you screen Andy Warhol’s ‘Empire’ for eleven hours?</p>
<p>I challenge Tercerunquintos’ entire assessment of New Langton Art’s. I see it as a shortsighted, skewed assessment, entangled in wholly opportunistic art making.</p>
<p>I propose that if NLA sells it’s Archive, please sell it’s name and location too.</p>
<p>Honestly, the Archive in all of it’s beautiful imperfectness is at least ours… even if for just a little while longer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Tercerunquinto (Part 1) by Janet Norris</title>
		<link>http://langtonblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/interview-with-tercerunquinto-part-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that any perusal of the first years of the archives of the institution that is now known as Langton Arts would lead most of those who undertook the task to realize that the gallery is not anymore what it once was.  Perhaps that's why the three artists reported so much talk about history.   I think that the archives should be given away after the doors to Langton Arts are closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that any perusal of the first years of the archives of the institution that is now known as Langton Arts would lead most of those who undertook the task to realize that the gallery is not anymore what it once was.  Perhaps that&#8217;s why the three artists reported so much talk about history.   I think that the archives should be given away after the doors to Langton Arts are closed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Langton Arts&#8217; Archive For Sale: A Sacrificial Act by Shane Aslan Selzer</title>
		<link>http://langtonblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/05/new-langton-arts-archive-for-sale-a-sacrificial-act/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Aslan Selzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious about the "integral and structural analysis"  Tercerunquinto made while in residence at New Langton. I was disappointed that this research was not made available as part of their exhibition. It seems antithetical to their proposal to withhold or overlook the public access of such said research. Not having access to their research I can only infer how they arrived at the notion that Langton's physical archive was "the one thing that defines you" and that which holds "maximum capital" for the institution at present. 

Personally, I disagree with the end result of Tercerunquinto's analysis. While Langton's history is important, not as nostalgia but as the foundation for the context under which we engage new artists and produce new projects, the physical archive has little to do with that history in psychological terms. That history has been documented in several publications and has resurfaced in exhibitions which think forward while understanding the evolution of the past (not just of Langton's past but of the trajectory which has formed various types of practices both locally and internationally). 

In truth, Langton, doesn't have the space or appropriate facilities to house archival material of any sort for extended amounts of time. The archive is inaccessible to almost everyone and therefore exists, even now as more of a psychological space than an actual resource. For this reason, the archive would be in better hands elsewhere, and Tercerunquinto has successfully pushed the conversation of the archive's future life to the fore in a non-profit that tends to move slowly where questions of identity and possession are concerned. 

What continues to concern me though is the assertion that the archive itself is the most valuable asset Langton has, and that it forms the core of Langton's identity. I find this assertion to be dangerous in that it strays our emphasis from what I believe to be the core of Langton's identity which is the production of new, experimental works. It is artists and curators who push Langton and who continue to mold and remold the institution from within.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious about the &#8220;integral and structural analysis&#8221;  Tercerunquinto made while in residence at New Langton. I was disappointed that this research was not made available as part of their exhibition. It seems antithetical to their proposal to withhold or overlook the public access of such said research. Not having access to their research I can only infer how they arrived at the notion that Langton&#8217;s physical archive was &#8220;the one thing that defines you&#8221; and that which holds &#8220;maximum capital&#8221; for the institution at present. </p>
<p>Personally, I disagree with the end result of Tercerunquinto&#8217;s analysis. While Langton&#8217;s history is important, not as nostalgia but as the foundation for the context under which we engage new artists and produce new projects, the physical archive has little to do with that history in psychological terms. That history has been documented in several publications and has resurfaced in exhibitions which think forward while understanding the evolution of the past (not just of Langton&#8217;s past but of the trajectory which has formed various types of practices both locally and internationally). </p>
<p>In truth, Langton, doesn&#8217;t have the space or appropriate facilities to house archival material of any sort for extended amounts of time. The archive is inaccessible to almost everyone and therefore exists, even now as more of a psychological space than an actual resource. For this reason, the archive would be in better hands elsewhere, and Tercerunquinto has successfully pushed the conversation of the archive&#8217;s future life to the fore in a non-profit that tends to move slowly where questions of identity and possession are concerned. </p>
<p>What continues to concern me though is the assertion that the archive itself is the most valuable asset Langton has, and that it forms the core of Langton&#8217;s identity. I find this assertion to be dangerous in that it strays our emphasis from what I believe to be the core of Langton&#8217;s identity which is the production of new, experimental works. It is artists and curators who push Langton and who continue to mold and remold the institution from within.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Tercerunquinto (Part 1) by Timothy Collins</title>
		<link>http://langtonblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/interview-with-tercerunquinto-part-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had a good discussion concerning the sales last night at the Board meeting. I t was good to see how careful, tenative and thoughtful the comments flowed. Prices ranged from $1 to the right institution to $1million . Retisence was rampant. I think that if our average budget for the last thirty years was $200k ($500k this year) a price of $10,000 per year would be a bargain. the $300,000  could be used  as endowment for our future projects. Would we miss it? , No, we are rooted in the present and concerned with the future . Past accomplishments only serve to enable the present. Do we respect the archives?. Yes, they (the events) are the fabric of the Langton tapestry. It is an awakening and if nothing happens we will certainly advance the archives for more art scholars to mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a good discussion concerning the sales last night at the Board meeting. I t was good to see how careful, tenative and thoughtful the comments flowed. Prices ranged from $1 to the right institution to $1million . Retisence was rampant. I think that if our average budget for the last thirty years was $200k ($500k this year) a price of $10,000 per year would be a bargain. the $300,000  could be used  as endowment for our future projects. Would we miss it? , No, we are rooted in the present and concerned with the future . Past accomplishments only serve to enable the present. Do we respect the archives?. Yes, they (the events) are the fabric of the Langton tapestry. It is an awakening and if nothing happens we will certainly advance the archives for more art scholars to mine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Langton Arts&#8217; Archive For Sale: A Sacrificial Act by Timothy Collins</title>
		<link>http://langtonblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/05/new-langton-arts-archive-for-sale-a-sacrificial-act/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in a society of accumulation so it is only natural to consider the tangible value of 30 years of archieves that catalogue the leading edge art presented at Langton during those years. Langton is not burdened with a permanent collection and has not yey developed an "ediface complex"  so the remnants of the past are useful to study art history and developement in the Bay area and beyond. Langton would funtion exactly the same if the archieves were destroyed. If the achieves were sold for money Langton would be able to continue and improve exhibitions and programs. The art of the past is easy while the art of the future is a risk. That risk is difficult to fund. Langton celebrates the present and the future and the fact the the archieves are sitting peacefully in boxes implies that they are ignored. What a fine capsule of the past for a research institution to make available to scholars (langton does interact with education) while providing langton with an endowement for the present. Thank you Tercerunquinto for opening our eyes and opening debate. We are about passion and let's hope we have some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in a society of accumulation so it is only natural to consider the tangible value of 30 years of archieves that catalogue the leading edge art presented at Langton during those years. Langton is not burdened with a permanent collection and has not yey developed an &#8220;ediface complex&#8221;  so the remnants of the past are useful to study art history and developement in the Bay area and beyond. Langton would funtion exactly the same if the archieves were destroyed. If the achieves were sold for money Langton would be able to continue and improve exhibitions and programs. The art of the past is easy while the art of the future is a risk. That risk is difficult to fund. Langton celebrates the present and the future and the fact the the archieves are sitting peacefully in boxes implies that they are ignored. What a fine capsule of the past for a research institution to make available to scholars (langton does interact with education) while providing langton with an endowement for the present. Thank you Tercerunquinto for opening our eyes and opening debate. We are about passion and let&#8217;s hope we have some.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anthony McCall showing at Langton by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://langtonblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/20/anthony-mccall-showing-at-langton/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fantastic production - thank you so much for putting this together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fantastic production - thank you so much for putting this together.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Tercerunquinto (Part 1) by Danny Sanner</title>
		<link>http://langtonblog.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/interview-with-tercerunquinto-part-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting proposal. What does Langton think about it? Any offers yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting proposal. What does Langton think about it? Any offers yet?</p>
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